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MARK GARNETT,基思。约瑟夫的传记作者:从1974年中期开始,约瑟夫进行了一次十字军东征向整个国家宣扬他的思想;他想做的是把战斗推进到敌人的心脏地带;他相信大学已经被社会主义思想所腐蚀。

KEITH JOSEPH: Because there was a free society in this country。。。。

基思。约瑟夫:因为这个国家是一个自由社会……

CECIL PARKINSON; Conservative Minister; 1981…1983; 1987…1989: And he was going right into the lions den; arguing a case that many people had never heard before。

CECIL PARKINSON,保守党大臣,1981-1983年:他直入虎穴,辩论很多人已经从未听过的话题。

MARK GARNETT: Joseph felt that it was his duty to fight back on behalf of the free market。

MARK GARNETT:约瑟夫觉得代表自由市场进行战斗是他的责任。

NARRATOR: To revive the economy; Joseph preached that Britain needed more risk…taking; which meant more bankrupts and more millionaires; and less equality。

旁白:为了使经济复苏,约瑟夫鼓吹英国需要冒更大的风险,这意味着更多的破产、更多的百万富翁和更少的平等。

CECIL PARKINSON: The audience would sort of gasp。 Theyd never heard anybody challenging the consensus。

CECIL PARKINSON:听众将有些惊讶。他们从未听过有人挑战主流意见。

KEITH JOSEPH: Mild inflation seemed a painless way of maintaining full employment; encouraging growth; and expanding the social services。 So the result is that were now more socialist in many ways than any other developed country outside the munist bloc。

基思。约瑟夫:温和的通货膨胀似乎是保持充分就业、鼓励增长和扩大社会服务的一种无痛苦方式。结果是我们今天在许多方面都比共产主义集团以外的任何发达国家更接近社会主义。

RALPH HARRIS: He used to be smuggled in the back door。 He was genuinely hurt that the students had reacted to this penetrating argument by chucking flour bombs at him。

拉尔夫。哈里斯:他过去常常被从后门偷偷带进来。学生们对他尖锐的观点报之以面粉团,这真正伤害了他。

MARK GARNETT: It was almost a badge of honor that he would e away from these meetings with egg yolk running down his suit。

MARK GARNETT:他离开会场时衣服上带着打破的鸡蛋,这几乎成了他的荣誉勋章。

NARRATOR: Keith Josephs most significant adherent was an up…and…ing Conservative politician named Margaret Thatcher。 In Parliament and politics; Thatchers closest friends agree that Keith Josephs influence on her was crucial。

旁白:基思。约瑟夫最重要的信徒是一位崭露头角的保守党政治家-玛格丽特。撒切尔。撒切尔在议会两院以及政治生涯中的密友都承认基思。约瑟夫对她的影响极其重要。

NIGEL VINSON; Institute of Economic Affairs: She relied on him to give her deep intellectual support。 Theres nothing wrong with intuition。 Intuition is reason in a hurry; and Keith just supported and reinforced her intuition。 At the very moment; she needed that support。

NIGEL VINSON,经济问题研究所:她依靠他来获取深度的思想支持。直觉没有错,直觉是理由,而基思恰恰支持和加强了她的直觉。在非常深刻,她需要这种支持。

NARRATOR: Margaret Thatcher had a gut instinct for market economics。 Her father had been a grocer; and when she was a girl; she had helped him in the shop。 Hardworking and studious; she won a place at Oxford University; where she became interested in student politics。

旁白:玛格丽特。撒切尔对市场经济有一种本能的直觉。她的父亲是杂货店主;当撒切尔还是个少女时,她就已经在店里帮忙了。苦干和勤学使她得以进入牛津大学学习,在那里她开始政治感兴趣。

While she was at Oxford; she read Hayeks Road to Serfdom。 It made a lasting impression on her。 Years later; when she became the first woman to lead the Conservative Party; she once slammed Hayeks book down on a table and announced; ";This is what we believe。";

她在牛津的时候就阅读了哈耶克的《通往奴役的道路》,这给她留下了长久的印象。多年以后,当她成为保守党的第一位女领袖时,她曾经猛地将哈耶克的书拍在桌子上,宣布:“这是我的信仰。”

RALPH HARRIS: (laughs) Thatchers office came on and said could she e and drop in to see him。 And so she called by; and there was a period of unaccustomed silence from Margaret Thatcher as she sat there; intense; attending to the masters words。

拉尔夫。哈里斯:(笑)撒切尔的办公室人员来到说她可否来顺道拜访他。于是她就来顺道拜访了,她坐在那里不同寻常的沉默了一段时间,专注于主人的谈话。

NARRATOR: By 1974; Hayek sensed the world beginning to go his way。

旁白:到1974年的时候,哈耶克感觉到世界开始按他的方式出发。

FRIEDRICH VON HAYEK (interviewed in 1978): As for the movement of intellectual opinion is concerned; it is now for the first time in my life moving in the right direction。

哈耶克(1978年的采访):就所关心的思想观点运动来说,现在是我生命中第一次朝正确的方向运动。

Onscreen title: Stockholm; 1974

字幕标题:斯德哥尔摩,1974年

NARRATOR: In the battle of ideas; 1974 was a turning point。 Hayeks Nobel Prize came as a surprise; but the balance was now shifting away from Keynes and towards Hayek。

旁白:在思想的战争中,1974年是一个转折点。哈耶克获得诺贝尔奖令人惊讶,但是天平现在正从凯恩斯一方向哈耶克一方倾斜。

FRIEDRICH VON HAYEK: I like to say when I was a young man; only the

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